berni23

Sorry for english but my polish sux.

Fancamp is the official name for tent cities and public viewing areas since 2006:

http://calapolskakib...a22dd8b7b000000

I thought that might be worth something.

Anyway they are on Allegro now.

Co sadzicie o tej domenie?

Jest warta jakas kase teraz przed Euro2012?

Domena przekierowuje na worldcupfancamp.com

Tak samo jak:

worldcupcamping.com

eurofancamp.com

fanfest.pl

I jak sie oplaca, to gdzie sprzedac?

cena odnowienia = renewal price for the domain

cena odnowienia wygasającej = price of renewal of the expiring domain

Thats whats confusing me.

The renewal of of an expiring domain is more expensive than just a renewal?

This is to encourage customers to renew their domains for more than a year?

Sorry if thats unclear, but i never came across a practice like that.

Thanks for that. I still have my problems with the Polish system.

For instance: What is the difference between "Cena odnowienia"and "Cena odnowienia wygasającej"?

I have a few domains regitered @ ppd.pl and today i received a legit looking email from them:

Witamy,

Piszemy, aby przypomnieć o zakończeniu obsługi domen przez dotychczasowego rejestratora - PPD.pl.

Kontynuacja projektu odbywa się pod zmienionym adresem: http://premium.pl na nowej platformie.

Konieczne jest samodzielne przeniesienie domen do nowej wersji projektu.

Transfer jest prostą operacją, a jej opis znajdą Państwo na stronie http://premium.pl/ppd.html

Będziemy wdzięczni za podjęcie czynności w sprawie utrzymywanych domen.

Pozdrawiamy,

Zespół PPD.pl

Anybody know them? And is PPD really quiting?

w dropped i ppd jest taniej

a ile? bo nie moge znalezc cennika na .pl

Po pierwsze, chociaż nie najważniejsze, po co pisać po angielsku gdy ktoś, kto pyta zna dobrze polski? (Dzieci emigrantów w pierwszym pokoleniu zazwyczaj znają język rodziców i świetnie się nim posługują.)

I actually lived in Poland until i was six, but this was in the 80s. I'm writing in English for my convenience not hers and to spare you guys with my horrible Polish.

Po drugie... Żeby udzielić rzetelnej odpowiedzi na zadane pytanie, trzeba by sprawdzić jakie są oficjalnie zapisane procedury i oficjalny regulamin rejestracji domen pl. Prawdopodobnie na stronie NASK powinno być to wyklarowane. O ile wiem wielu zagranicznych rejestratorów oferuje swoim klientom domeny pl, nie wymagając śmiesznych wymysłów typu jakiś pesel. Z tego by wynikało, że numer pesel nie jest niezbędny do rejestracji domeny pl.

 

Po trzecie, wygląda na to, że w Polsce - czyli wśród firm (rejestratorów) działających w naszym kraju - aby zarejestrować domenę pl, pesel jest konieczny.

 

Biorąc powyższe pod uwagę, wyłania się prosty wniosek, że trzeba zarejestrować domenę pl u zagranicznego rejestratora i że, prawdopodobnie, trzeba będzie więcej zapłacić. Ale nie są to przecież wielkie koszty. Przykładowo, w https://www.ovh.co.uk 16 funtów na rok. Oczywiście, że to więcej niż w Polsce, ale ominąć się tego nie da*.

There are at least 2 registrars(mentioned above), that allows foreign customers:

Regulamin:

1. Wszystkie kwoty podane w Serwisie są kwotami netto, należy doliczyć do nich 22% VAT. Rozliczenie z podmiotami mającymi siedzibę poza terytorium Polski odbędzie na zasadach przewidzianych w polskim prawie podatkowym i odpowiednich ustawach.
   

I believe polish registrants are simply not accustomed to foreign customers, or in the case of OVH and other multinational registrars they are bound to redirect the registrant to their foreign counterpart.

Rejestrujesz domenę u polskiego rejestratora, podajesz fikcyjne dane, których i tak nikt nie sprawdza, opłacasz domenę na 10 lat naprzód wg polskich stawek a następnie przenosisz do zagranicznego rejestratora już na swoje prawdziwe dane. Ale to tak na marginesie.

I don't think that's a good idea.

I przychodzi do firmy faktura bo nie ma takiego adresu i jest lipa... Można sie dogadać z rejestratorem zeby podać lipny pesel itd zeby coś było a reszta prawdziwa

As i said before i stated my actual address. And in case you haven't heard, there is a thing called online bill.

How is that ripping her off?

That is over 90PLZ in my books, instead of 45PLZ in Poland.

And when she creates a domain it's even hilarious.

Giving false information is never good idea. And it probably violates ToS.

I stated my address here in Germany and i don't have PESEL. Don't see how this is "false information".

That's how i moved to them a couple of days ago and they know about it.

Napisz bezpośrednio do rejestratora, którym jesteś zainteresowana, na pewno coś wymyśli

Both ovh and masternet have this strange SMS confirmation, which works for polish numbers in Poland only + PESEL or NIP and REGON during registration. I have contacted both and masternet simple answer was "Sorry, you have to live in Poland", while ovh answered "Please contact OVH in your country".

Poza tym OVH.fr jest dostępne dla Kanadyjczyków, tak więc zamawiając poprzez klik nie powinnaś mieć problemów.

Again, do you want to rip her off?

@the last 2 posters

Are you guys serious?

Do you want to rip him off?

Check out http://ppd.pl and enter 0s as your PESEL and your area code has to look XX-XXX.

You can also pay by credit card there.

And don't forget to add 22% tax, it's kinda like USA.

Można rejestrować - trzeba wtedy podać inny numerek identyfikacyjny z jakiegoś dokumentu - np. paszport.

Not @ ovh and masternet, they require you to have polish citizenship and and residency.

According to this the .pl domain market has risen by almost 50% last year alone.

Do you think that .pl domains could eventually be priced like e.g. .de domains(~15PLZ), or is NASK simply to greedy and corrupt?

Where do you see cheaper prices? Registration&Renewal prices are higher.

You have to scroll down to the very bottom, but as i said this only available this month.

Until the end of march ppd.pl/cennik.html is even cheaper than ovh+masternet.

Thanx! That is exactly what i was looking for.

Strange that the so praised masternet.pl is not on the list, on the other hand my registrar Varia claims to have 7294 domains @ the moment, so i guess a lot has changed since last year.

Remember that the largest =/ the best

I am actually @ a rather small registrar(i believe).

Just wanted to check how they are doing.

Can anybody point me to a graphic or list like this one only for polish registrars:

http://www.registrarstats.com/Public/Regis...tShareMain.aspx

Dla przeciętnego zjadacza chleba, nie ma kompletnie znaczenia czy ktoś sprzedaje domeny jako partner nask, czy jest pośrednikiem takiego partnera. Jeśli firma nie jest krzakiem, a ceny ma przystępne to się u niej kupuje czy przedłuża i tyle.Zresztą, skoro już mowa o autoryzowanych partnerach Nasku, Consulting Service także takowym jest, co tylko potwierdza tezę iż przepłacać po prostu nie warto. ;-)

Well, i moved my domains to them within minutes and payed 40PLZ each for the renewal.

Really, I always get them via e-mail or web interface

Just got my authinfo within minutes by email.

The general domain policy in Poland is that you pay e.g. 1-2 EUR and then you either prolong for 15-20 EUR (Masternet is probably the cheapest company on the market) but if you want to move the domain earlier (meaning before you prolong it in the same company) you have to pay an additional fee which is in most cases the difference between the promotional price and the price of extension. Besides, there is no better offer than Masternet so pay and stay : )

 

Another thing is that in Poland, with a lot of governmental and post-governmental companies (including NASK, which manages .pl/.com.pl domains and sells them through its "partners") operating like back in the socialist times, moving a domain is not an easy task. As far as I remember it requires provision of some legal documents (generally papers stating ownership) via snail mail.

masternet.pl and ovh.pl is only available to polish citizens residing in Poland.

Never had this problem @ active24.pl, but they are also more expensive.

Hopefully ppd.pl accepts foreign customers, because otherwise i would have to register in Germany, which costs ~30€.

So i've been searching for domain and hosting prices in Poland, Germany, GB and the USA and came across this offer:

http://www.internetagentur-was.de/easyhost.php

Obviously they are trying to make cash through the long commitment and their domain prices:

http://www.internetagentur-was.de/domainpreisliste.php

But other than that i couldn't find any flaws.

Please let me know if you do, because otherwise i'm moving my main domain to them.

I also found a very neat domain price search engine:

http://www.hostsuche.de/suche_domain.php

Unfortunately not for .pl as most of the companies are from Germany.

This isn't true. I transfered few domains in the past (from different companies) and never had any issues with documents. Authinfo + confirmation e-mail is usually enough.

What is "Authinfo"?

The general domain policy in Poland is that you pay e.g. 1-2 EUR and then you either prolong for 15-20 EUR (Masternet is probably the cheapest company on the market) but if you want to move the domain earlier (meaning before you prolong it in the same company) you have to pay an additional fee which is in most cases the difference between the promotional price and the price of extension. Besides, there is no better offer than Masternet so pay and stay : )

 

Another thing is that in Poland, with a lot of governmental and post-governmental companies (including NASK, which manages .pl/.com.pl domains and sells them through its "partners") operating like back in the socialist times, moving a domain is not an easy task. As far as I remember it requires provision of some legal documents (generally papers stating ownership) via snail mail.

Thanx for clearing that up.

So, you guys prefer to buy .com or other domains and then host them abroad?

Is hosting just as regulated or even corrupt like the domain business, or is it possible to find a fair hoster?

www.masternet.pl ?

This sounds interesting. Still more than other national domains, but acceptable.

BTW: Can i register a domain at the promotional price and than keep moving it every year from company to company?

This are excellent prices for .com domains!

But for .pl domains it is even cheaper here and a comperable hosting plan would cost almost 53€ a year.

C'mon guys, are .pl domains really 4x as expensive as almost any national domains???